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Monday, December 22, 2008
13.Oral Presentations (Groups 3 and 4)
Please follow the instructions for Blog assignment 11 when giving feedback to Groups 3 and 4.
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Section A3
I was in Group3 with Derya, Melisa and Göksu. 1- I would probably give A- because we tried to present it fluently, logically connected etc. However, presentation might be a bit longer and we had technical difficulties at the beginning of the presentation. 2- I am not very happy because we could not show our trailer. 3- No problems. 4- I think having some time in class was useful but I did not use it effectively and in my opinion there was enough time to be prepared in class. 5- It was a good experience but I did not learn a lot how to prepare an extremely effective presentation. However, it was a good group work and a good time to learn how to work with a group.
Group4: I found their presentation too long and most of the information was written on the slide and it made presentation a bit boring because I am also able to read them. It would be better if they had written their information in a piece of paper and put less information on the slide, it will be more attractive. They divided work well and it was very nice to be able to insert a video to their presentation. (:
They wanted to show a youtube trailer, and counted on youtube which let them down. they should not trust youtube (it's often banned in Turkey as everyone knows, kind of a game). The trailer confusion was really annoying, we downloaded 2 youtube videos and integrated them in our presentation, had no problems. There were a few grammar mistakes, I'd like to mention. Not that everyone expects perfect English grammar but they made "ridiculously ugly" grammar mistakes. It was a relatively short presentation, which lasted about 20 minutes, and there were four of them in the Workgroup. Actually I was expecting an at least 30-35 minute work to fill the lesson time but it just started and ended in a blink. They informed us about the writer's life but did not exactly say how his life effected the movie or some resemblences, maybe we were supposed to figure out? I found the arrangements of the pictures and the writings a little disorganized, could've been nicely done.
They had a good point in contrasting Southpark's Kenny and this character Sajid. They had relatively good division of work, not one of them looked more or less contributed on the work.
Having said all these, I'd better get going and grab my shield, Group 3 girls will throw their arrows of harsh criticism to our work of Group 4's I think :D
PART II. Self-evaluation 1. I am expecting an A-. I think we did pretty well, except writing few of the written material on the presentation and not having them on a piece of paper to mention when the turn comes, that bored the audience a bit. There were 3 of us in the group and our presentation lasted 35 minutes or so. We had good division of work, and gave this nice info about the background of the period the movie was produced in, which made it easier for the audience to digest the movie. Our videos were well-integrated and useful for understanding the movie and keeping the audience alive. Our hand-out cards could've been better, it was an idea that flashed in our minds just before the presentation, we could've worked on them more. The aim of the hand-out cards was to pre-inform the audience about the writer and all and generate some contribution
2. I was happy with: +our presentation lasted about 35 mins which was what we planned, actually a little longer +We had 2 supportive videos which made the presentation interesting +Good division of work, everyone contributed the same amount
I was less than happy with: -Hand-out cards could've been worked on -Few written material on the slides bored the audience a little, we could've had them on the paper, not the slides.
3.We had a friend who was not boarding at the dormitory, so when 2 of the members met at the campus and worked on the presentation, she had to check our work and contribute later. This wasn't a seriously problem as we well-integrated each other's work in the slide.
Initiallly, we had some trouble obtaining the videos from youtube, we figured out a way.
As our movie was old (1961), we had hard time finding supportive datas like photos, screenshots, reviews etc. Even we produced our own screenshots from the movie to use on the slide.
4. It was useful to have a class time as we could pre-arrange the division of work and other stuff
5. This definitely was a useful learning experience. We are now familiar with how to present our work and to work systematically.
6. They can be allowed to choose their own movie to present, not from a handful of movies.
firstly before they start every thing should have been ready by meaning the trailer it was a good idea but effect us and them in a bad way it was at the beginning and every body got bored and they get more excited... but they explained the characters of the movie interesting and nice i like that i think it was meenah ?? I am not sure the daughter that didnt agree with her dad they sad '' she goes plays soccer and dance's under the rain '' what the father says only dont play ball and dont dance under the rain they could have explain this part better..the information about england was a good idea i think ..I didnt really get the all of the points about racism they try to explain... the map was good and they explained it really well in the end they had a nice work nice hassle girls you all did a good job =)
GROUP 4
the paper was a good idea the hand out that they gave that was a point the music they played it was soo low first i thought that it was coming from out say it could be little louder the short clips were nice ..like the in the board the writings the sentences they use was good also but presenting it wasnt really good like at some points i didnt understand what were trying to say or explain it got little boring some parts after they covered it up little.. it is seem they have work for the presentation its not a 5 minute work what have they done but they could have work little more at the speaking part and in the end when i ask the question if they recommend this movie i got a good answer back they didnt jsut say yes or no they explain it to me by saying if you like this this kind of staff you might like it but if not you wont probly like it ...
group 3. i would like to start saying mete that i am not going to say anything 'ridiculously ugly' about their presentation. :) first of all i would like to appreciate them for being able to integrate videos to their presentation. i also liked the trailer they picked. the hand-out cards seemed like a good idea to me but handing them before the presentation when we knew nothing about the movie made them less effective. in general i liked the presentation. it was supported with pictures and videos and the division of work was good too. however i need to say that there was too much information on the slides and sometimes it felt like you were reading what was on the screen.
self evaluation: 1. ı would probably give our presentation B something around 85-90. i think we brought out good points about movie and supported them with pictures and maps. we lived a trailer fiasco at the beginning which was our fault for not checking it before the presentation. i also think that we used vocabulary relevant to our topic and it was all teamwork but it could have been a little longer. 2.i was happy that everyone in the group contributed enough and we did a good research. i was less than happy about that youtube video problem but none of us could manage to find a trailer other than youtube and also we could explain some points better which would make the audience understand it better. 3.well our biggest problem was the video i do not think i need to mention it again. also we had some problems finding a suitable time for all of us since one of us does not live at campus but we found our way. 4.i think it was useful to have a class time since i had also mentioned about our time problem. 5.this was definitely very beneficial for our presentation skills but i have to accept that we still have a lot to learn about an effective presentation. 6.i can suggest them NOT TO TRUST youtube under any circumstances.
Group 3 They made very good research about background info. However, they overemphasize this part. They gave a lot of information which were not displayed sufficiently and it took too much time so it started to bother audience. They used scenes from the movie but those weren't efficients because of volume problem. I liked visuals that used in the presentation.
Group 4 In some parts of slides they used too much written informations and also in some parts too many movie fragments. If they adjsut movie fragments in more bigger sizes, it would be helpful for audience to watch. Except for these, they were the only group who didn't have volume problem and also they used time well enough.
D3 3rd group- self evaulation 3 rd group was mine group. i think except one slights and expalining a bit fastly we did the presentation good. we did a cohersive search and tried to find good and exact scenes to make people understand what film and we tried to say. 4th group except the summary was too long they prepared good presentation but they were not well prepared. they chosen impovisation instedad of getting ready by recognising their speech. if i were a teacher i would give them 16 :)
They performed not bad at all. They arranged their time so well. Indeed, they tried to implant all little points that go throughout the film. By doing this, sometimes they showed how well they caught up some hidden details in the background. However, they just tried to touch on all of these that were not a vivid idea. One of these that I found really intriguing was the sound which is one of the counterparts of the film’s soundtrack. They separated adolescences and adults, afterwards analyzed them from distinct perspectives; it helped audiences to understand some crucial, underlying points of the film. They associated youth generation with colorful scenes. Contrarily, they represented adults like black and white colored scenes. Slides were clear in terms of recognizing the points without being distracted of listening them at the same time. On the other hand, in general; none of the group members made direct eye contacts with audiences.
GROUP 4
The group members, who were not performing at that time, were just talked and talked between each other so much, all which were huge regardless attitudes. Which mean, they showed no respect to audiences so how they could expect to see respect from audiences? Isn’t it ridicules? They almost did not make a distribution of tasks before coming to class. As we see a chronic problem of students that, they also made their presentation to teacher, not to class. Each of group members except for one interrupted each other’s presentation all the time. They performed not as a group but in an individually jealous mood whose were thirsty for getting better mark only.
D3" Group 3 which was mine group did a good presentation I think. We start with a summary to our presentation. Then we explain the significant symbols in the movie. Finally we present the backgrounds of the period of 60's. However we present a bit fastly. Group 4 The members of this group were not watched the movie carefully I think because they misunderstood a vital part of the movie(Frank). Their summary was also too long. However in question part groups performance is very good.
Section A3: I enjoyed the Group 3's presentation. They were showing maps and other information that can show that they searched on the web about their topic and they were three but it did not matter they did a good division on the parts speaking and talking about the slides. However Mete says ugly things about the video and says that YouTube does not work in Turkey sometimes, YouTube do work in the campus and these kinds of things can appear in the presentations. Ok, they were sometimes weak on their grammar but i think it is because they got a little excited. It’s not easy to show your full performance in front of your friends or it may not be easy talk perfectly a foreign language and i don’t think that that is what eng 101 expecting from us. About the group 4: They were also good on presenting, but would not write that much on the slides and the cards that they gave was the same as the slides, long and nothing interesting or nothing memorable was written on it. I would not do it.
The group was composed of harmonic partners and all of them had compensated the deficient parts of each other systematically and practically. For example; while Ogeday was talking his team-mates supported him during hesitant positions and that remained fluency. Hence it means the collaboration between partners that made presentation elegant.Furthermore, they used time efficiently and also used presentation cards which was a clever attitude -that we plan to employ- in order to decrease the number of possible mistakes in presentation. Moreover, they gave place to a musical scene that was a great work made me impressed while listening and the music which contains a poem had summarized the story in short sentences.As a result they fulfilled their task and I hope they get a high mark.
The Group 4
This group was also tried to do their best, although they talked and discussed between each other that enabled the audience at least me think the members of group do work for themselves only , there is no any organization and work order. However they told important parts of the story good without any hesitation. But they are not well organized and the uncertainty was a negative point of their group. There were some misunderstandings that came up with ambiguous answers that did not satisfy the audience.
The group was composed of harmonic partners and all of them had compensated the deficient parts of each other systematically and practically. For example; while Ogeday was talking his team-mates supported him during hesitant positions and that remained fluency. Hence it means the collaboration between partners that made presentation elegant.Furthermore, they used time efficiently and also used presentation cards which was a clever attitude -that we plan to employ- in order to decrease the number of possible mistakes in presentation. Moreover, they gave place to a musical scene that was a great work made me impressed while listening and the music which contains a poem had summarized the story in short sentences.As a result they fulfilled their task and I hope they get a high mark.
The Group 4
This group was also tried to do their best, although they talked and discussed between each other that enabled the audience at least me think the members of group do work for themselves only , there is no any organization and work order. However they told important parts of the story good without any hesitation. But they are not well organized and the uncertainty was a negative point of their group. There were some misunderstandings that came up with ambiguous answers that did not satisfy the audience.
Group 3 I would probably give our presentation B something around 85-90. i think we brought out good points about movie and supported them with pictures and maps. and you Mete. you possessed with an idea "ridiculously ugly" that is not a grammer mistake. where is the problem? we are not perfect person who speak very well
group4 their presentation was too long and many information was written on the slide and it made presentation boring.
I can understand why some of you say you would like to choose your own film...I had to make sure all the films related to our course theme of Family Ties and that there was enough social, historical and cultural context in each to enable you to develop an academic presentation. Many popular films would therefore not be suitable for this assignment.
I am impressed by the quality of the feedback comments you are leaving, please keep it up! Please feel free to respond to the feedback given to your group by other students.
Section B3 Group 3 I think they were the luckiest group because they presented “American Beauty” and many people knows about this film. Their power point’s background was nice. It was colour of American Beauty rose. They mentioned interesting points that I did not think when I watched the film. For example they said the rose represents social barrier between Lester and Angela. He never imagines her totally naked! They showed some parts from the film. That made it easy to understand. Second speaker spoke Turkish more than 3 times, he said “şey” , but they were good. However, they did not mention about family ties.
Group 4 They presented “The Graduate”. Their language was understandable. Maybe they can put more pictures. Their presentation was not so amusing. They had mentioned historical context, like hippie and feminist movements, nicely. They told about family relations in the film well. I want to watch this movie.
Firstly,i want to emphasize that both group 3 and 4 have done presentations pretty well in my opinion. For group three, they have divided their work equally into group members and they help each other very nicely. Their source for short-video was also useful i think, even some interruption of it but not much stuff.To sum up, apart from some interruption the presentation was quite informative and fluent. For group 4, i could critize in little bit cold blood:) their presentation was really good designed and informative and detailed but they didn't help each other, they put too long sentences into their presentation and even they didn't read from paper but they read from the screen which is worst. The worst thing was that when a member got excited any of them helped him i think they can help each other. Lastly even it was informative and detailed it was a little bit boring but altough these mistakes they presented their best and everybody in the class could understand that they really prepared for the presentation.
They worked harmonicly and their explanation about topic was good especially they focused on relationships between young generations and adults, they used time very well, and they used powerpoint slides carefully and effectively as a result of that their presentation was nice.
Group 4
Firstly, they actually did not prepared this presentation much. They talked each other while presentation continuing and this makes negative points to them and this is not good for audience because it shows disrespect for audiences however they did good powerpoint slides only this situation made their presentation good.
Group 3 (a raisin in the sun) I am a member of this group. We couldn't use time so efficiently. It took a little bit longer than we planed. Our background info and other information like about author, was pretty enough to support our analysis but i guess it would be better if we had shortened the background part because in analysis part we had to be quicker to balance the time again. Also lack of voice in our videos restricted me and Yasemin. So we couldn't perform as we imagined or organized. Otherwise i think our powerpoint presentation was pretty cool. We tried to take the attentions with impressive headings and keywords. We used moving figures again to make our content more interesting and we supported our presentation with pretty relevant pictures. Also our presentation consists of enough researches. I think it is obvious that with our group, we tried to do our best for this assignment.
Group 4 They chose good parts of the movie to present so they could keep the attention. They performance was good during their presentation. Also they were organized. Their slides was cool and especially the last part in which every actress and actor were posing in the movie was spectacular. They could give more background information about content to make it better.
Sonja, I wanted to say that I did not search about the film in the class or I did not prepare my presentation in class. It was very nice to have time in class but I did not do a lot what should I do. As I said, I did not get prepared in class. I made a research outside the class, that’s why I said I did not use the time effectively which you gave us. I hope it is clear now. (:
Mete, I cannot understand that why you are obsessed with “ridiculously ugly”. In our film, East is East, we wanted to emphasize that their father do not care about what his children want, he just wants to arrange their children marriage with Pakistani girls. The father wants their children to get married with Pakistani girls, it is the only reason why he choose that ridiculously ugly girls. The father knows that the girls are ridiculously ugly, none of the fathers want their children to marry with ridiculously ugly girls/boys. However, in the film the father does not care because they are Pakistanis! It shows racism, get married with them because they are Pakistanis, the father does not care about children’s emotions, loves. In the film, in my opinion it was a very good part which should be emphasized because it was very important. I understand your point that, you do not like the words “ridiculously ugly”, but as I mentioned it was the part which should be highlighted. Also, Sonja told about it. Moreover, if I did not use that world, it would not get your attention. May be you can watch the film and try a bit harder to understand us why we used those words.
Hi again Hande, Your first comment was clear, I just wondered *why* you did not work in class. For example, did you find it difficult to concentrate? Did you feel you had lots of time ahead of you? Were you unsure of where to start and/or how to proceed? Something like that. There is no judgement involved; I am merely curious. :)
About group three, their presentation was good. Especially the context of moving African-Americans across USA and how they gain privileges throughout time were very extended and well-prepared. There were some lack of fluent speech; but i guess it's no problem considering the amount of given information. The scenes could be more explained before showing to the audience. For example i had a little difficulty about understanding one scene because i haven't watched the film. So it would be better to inform more about the scene before watching it.
About group four, the sound wasn't enough which prevented me to hear and to comment on their scene analysis. The context was well told and they created a good relation between characters as well as the analysis of each one. At the end, they showed some reviews and they didn't point on them. I believe it would be better to expand them, at least a brief phrase for each one. I liked the last of presentation where they showed the photographer taking photos of different people and i, once again, witnessed the sense of humor by British people. (Awesome)
Group 3 I think they worked so much on their job and they analyzed the movie well. They presented the movie so fluently and they had good contact with each others. But they could have more attractive powerpoint slides. Group 4 I think they seemed as they didn't work so much and they didn't contact between group members.It could be more fluent presentation.They had nice powerpoint slides.
Sonja, I am sorry, I did not give a clear answer. As you mentioned, I thought that I have lots of time to do it. Also, I did not want to start immediately because I was not sure about where should I start etc. I was in Group 3, which means I will have more time to get prepared. Moreover, I am sure that I would work hard in the class if I was in Group 1 or 2.
Their presentation was really good. They analyzed theme, symbols and characters in a very detailed way. They kept the interest of audience to presentation high through the presentation, which may be helped by the popularity and audiences' awareness of the film, American Beauty. They use scenes from the movie which increased effectiveness of their presentation. The only negative side of their presentation (in my opinion) was they assumed that audience knows a bit about the movie and they didn't introduce characters at the beginning of the presentation.
Group 4
Very good character, character relations, family introduction at the start was a positive for them. They gave a good historical background information, but they failed to connect the much of the background information to the film. They were also a bit anxious during presentation, which decreased their effectiveness.
Group 3:In my opinion, it was the best group i've seen so far(i don't count my group).I think their powerpoint was strong except a couple of mistakes like Ogeday forgat to put a slight. They caught the points in the movie, they've seen the main topics and presented them well and also developed their ideas impressively. Their language was fluent except some pronunciation mistakes. They weren't boring, it was obvious they spent time on it and succeed to catch my attention.
Group4:I think this group had some insufficient points they needed to improve. Firstly, they weren't well organized, one of the team members(Hakan) didn't work on his part at all, the team had lack of communication. Secondly, the summary was too long and bored most of the class as i have observed. I also think they missed some important points at the movie which they should have watched very carefully and analyzed well. However, i was still impressed by some of their explanations.
I am a member of this group. The contents of our presentation steps, in terms of preparing the audience, evaluating the film and emphasizing these days' conditions, were well-organized i think. Our visual show was also efficent. Whereas, like gokcen said before, we did not use the time efficently. The main factor for this is exceed number of cut film-scenes i think. But to be honest, we really tried to do our best and it is a good quality to realize our improvable points.
group 4
Their organization was really good and make the audience aware of what will be presented. They shared the time effectively and fluency was generally good except some moments. If we want to give an example to improvable points, maybe they could use a little bit lighter colours.
1) I was in group 3 with Gökçen, Görkem and Onat. I would probably give A- or B because we tried to use very different sources, our visual effects are fine and our presentation was logically connected.
2) I was very happy about we did perfect background information and visual themes. Also our film analysis was good enough. However i'm not happy with our time was not enough. If we could have more time, our presentation would be more exciting.
3) we didn't have any problems when we prepared because we always debated about our topic.
4) In my opinion, it was very useful have a class time to work on this assignment because we studied very well in a class time and most of our outline was appeared in that time.
5) It was a good experience for me because i always had problems about presentation and after this, we thought i over this problem.
group 3 they have done a great research about the historical background and it was very affective for the audience. the only problem was the timing and the scenes from the movie was incomprehensible because of the volume.
group 4 i was a member of this group. i think apart from background, we did a good job. We succeeded to attract the audience to the presentation by using scenes and clear speech. The timing was good. Because of the excitement of doing presentation led us to use some wrong words. We did not make a research about the background. i think this can be the main reason if audience could not found the presentation affective.
Group 3 They had prepared their presentation very good and they tried to speak successively. Also, they had too many photos and scenes from their own movie so watching them was very enjoyable. Only , they had a sound problem so we couldnt hear clearly.
Group 4 (my group) We had a good preparation for this presentation so ı thought we made a good job but sometimes we had some basic grammar mistakes while talking and so it was so normal=). And another mistake is that we didnt talk about historical background, we forgot that. Maybe ıt could be more better but for first time we made best =).
I think they were the most hardworking group among us. Their presentation was fully detailed. They had presented their work pretty well. "Graduate" is their biggest advantage. Movie itself is very famous and enjoying legend. I think they've done a very good job
Group 4
Well there is not much to say. They had 1 more weeks than first 2 groups had still they lacked communication, I even wonder if all the group members watched the film. Even if the summary was too long and unnecessary it was the best part of the presentation.
group3 is my group. 1. I hope to get A-. Not A because we had some technical difficulties. and I believe we deserve better than B+ because we analyze the movie well. 2. At the beginning we had some technical difficulties. That is something I am not happy with. I regreted why did not prepare the trailer before. But after we started, everything went fine. We present fluently. Overall I am happy with our presantation. 3. We did not experience any problems while preparing. 4. I think it useful to have class time. In class, we discuss the topics that we can use and divide them into parts. There is enough time to get prepared but I could not use it efficiently. 5. I could not say it is a positive learning experience because if you have a movie like East is East then there is limited things to learn. But presentation is a useful technique to improve public speaking skills. and I prefer presentations rather than writing essays. 6.no suggestions.
group4 I think it is an avarage presentation because they made some basic mistakes. There was to much writing on the slides. And it would be better if they prepared a speech instead of reading from laptop. My positive comment, the information about the movie's title and where does it came from is interesting. It was clear that they searched their movie very detailed.
Group 3 This group gives us a lot of background information ,however, they cause to become longer presentation than its normal.They gives us information from many sources. They also use many videos but the sound caused the problem. Generally, they continue with good organization and the presentation is clear.
Group 4 Characters are introduced with details. They also show us scenes from movie. They are fluent but some words cause conflict in my mind. It could be better unless presentation didn't include that amount information about characters so they may more focus on theme.
Group 3: I enjoyed their presentation. As some of my friends mentioned before there was a harmony between the group members. They were well organized, therefore they didn't talk to each other. They had a detailed research, which showed, that they took care of their job. The only problem was, they presented fast. Although they had enough time, they changed the slides fast. I guess, they had the feeling, they couldn't manage to end their presentation on time.
Group 4: This group gave me the feeling, they didn't spend time on their presentation so much. It was obvious, they were not organized. Not every group member knew, which part belonged to him. Therefore they talked to each other a lot during the presentation.
i missed the lesson, so i could not watch this presentation
group 4
it was my presentation group. First we could not organize, because i and gokhan could not reach other our presentation group members. actually we tried our best.summary part was very long, we did not plan like that long. i think we have positive parts in the movie. question part,symbols from the movie and the parallel part of the movie and our course readings parts were presentated very good.
group 3 Their presentation was very good. They talked about historical background which was very important for presentation. Using some scenes from the movie were very satisfying for audience. But the volume of the scenes and the timing were not adequate.
group 4 This is my group.
1) I would probably give our presentation B- or B, because we tried to explain good points from the movie and supported them with pictures and scenes from the movie.
2) I was happy because all the group members prepared enough, did good research and helped each other. I was less than happy because we didn't give any information about historical background and also we did some grammar mistakes, while we were talking.
3) No problems.
4) It was very efficient for learning experience and also It was a good practice because It was not easy to explain your thoughts, while talking to audience.
5) It was a good experience. But I think they can allowed to choose the movie
Group 3 I was absent at this class because of the preparations about our presentation that's why I apologise to my friends who made the third presentation =(
Group 4(our group) I would give us C because we were not organised because we were lack of communication. Alkan and I came together and tried to do something about the slides, the power-point show which would be the evidence of our work. We tried to do our best. Thanks to my classmates because they listened with respect sometimes they got bored, I saw that from their faces but they waited the end of the presentation that's why "grazie". =)
some comments on the presentation group4 are so lame. some people just criticize for the sake of criticizing. For those people, i want to say, stop being so lame and boring, get a life. This presentation thing is overrated, dont you have anything else to do in your life than killing time with lame presentations. O.K ? Get a life.
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they presented ''American Beauty''. Their slides were colorful and attractive. They took some scene from film but the volume of fragment was not enough to hear. They are lucky that lots of audience had watched this film before. While I were listening them, I did not get bored.
Group 4
Their used many photos from film on their slides. They give historical background information. They adjusted their time successfully. The character analysis were good to understand clearly.
They presented American Beauty very well. I found their presentation fine. They gave very good information of characters and clearly explain character's features. Furthermore they used a video from the movie. This made their presentation more attractive.
Group 4
They presented “The Graduate”. The photos they used in presentation were good. Their presentation was understandable.
i do not expect an A for my presentation, because we were not organized as well as it has to be. according to the work distribution, my job was easy and it lasted very short during the presentation.In my opinion, i worked enough to earn a b-plus, but this fact could be my handicap. I cannot come up with something that satisfies me, because the technological problems we faced during the presentation was crucial and it played unfortunately a big role. I think, the class time work was totally a waste of time for our group, because we couldn't manage to unite altogether in a single lesson time, but we had to meet after lessons. I always find oral Presentations useful, because i pay a lot of attention for speaking a foreign language rather than going deeper with grammar or reading texts/watching films.
1) I think we can have A-, because we are generally good. We had some miss points such as we did not mentioned family ties.
2) Generally I am happy with our presentation. Our presentation is visually nice. Especially short videos from the film are also very effective, therefore they made the presentation attractive and we tried to present fluently. Our time management is also good. Each group member spoke equally. We analyzed the characters well.
3) There is no problem while we were preparing the presentation.
4) I think class time is enough to prepare if it is used efficiently, but we could not used the class time efficiently, therefore we prepared big part of our presentation out of class.
5) I think it is useful for learning experience. We have improved our team work experiences, searching experiences
6) No, I don’t have any suggestions.
Group 4
Their presentation was not bad. Visually, it seemed nice. Two of the group member spoke fluently. Their character analysis was good. I understood all of them easily.
I beg pardon of the third group because I could not watch them for complete our presentation with my group:(
Group 4: self- evaluation
I cannot say good for our presentation:( As my partners said, we could not well organized and due to the fact that we had to speak while we present. That include organization, body language, eye contact etc. This is the cause the lower point of us. Moreover the summary of the film was too long which was my part. I apologize to my classmates because of boring them. But I may could not realize the time when I present:(
ı think group3 prepared really good. the division of work and using of language is really good. it can be a little bit longer. also if we could see the trailer it will be more interesting but this was not their fault. plus, the character analysis are very detailed which was very good.
I was in group4 but I do not prefer to do my self evaluation part. We all worked hard and tried to do our best.It was a good experience. That is the only thing that I want to say.
I really liked this presentation. They all seemed to have control over the movie and the presentation. They used some short videos from the movie which added a lot to the visual side of the presentation. Most of them spoke fluently, at least we did not have a hard time trying to understand them. If they could talk about the characters in the beginning a little bit, then we wouldn't have any problem understanding what's going on in the movie.
This presentation would be better if there were more visuals. They spoke clearly but they were kind of stressful. Character analysis were good. Background information were good but it kind of stood unconnected to the movie.
Group 3: This one was our group, we presented the movie American Beauty. I think we were the luckiest group since this movie was watched by most of the people and since it is more recent than most of the other presentation movies, it caught more attention. I think we made a good work preparing the powerpoint presentation, even the background colour was related with the movie, we used pictures to explain the symbols the movie contains and also thanks to Erdem we used 2 short videos from the movie to explain to situations and characters. I think our language was also fluent and easy to understand, we tried hard to get the attention of viewers, we made good eye contact and i think we adjusted our voice well. The negative points at our presentation were that we assumed everybody would know something about the movie so we didn't make the character analysis at the beginning, also it seems that we didn't give enough information about the Family Ties relevant to movie. But overally i am satisfied with the outcome of our presentation. I am hoping to get at least B+ for that.
Group 4: They gave detailed information about the historical context about the movie. They talked about the movements like hippie movement at that time. Their character analysis was very good and detailed. But they seemed a bit anxious, their language was not very fluent they didn't use much eye contact.
I was in Group3 with Elif and Ogeday and our film was '' The Graduate''.Actually, we did many works about presentation to express many sides of film to audience, it is wonderful film, however it includes many themes and situation makes hard to give all aspects of film in presentation.Additionally, we used to our time properly and tried to contact audience. During preparing process, I learned many things such as analyzing films,using powerpoint, organization. it was the good experience for me.
2) I think Group4, had some organization problems,also they put many things on slides which made following harder. Also they only criticize film's one side, however it includes many background.
Both group was great. They gave lots of information about the characters. For the Group 3 sound caused a problem but in spite of this problem presentation was great. The Group 4 showed us many scenes from the film and these scenes represented many important points of the film.
I am a member of this group. I think we did a great deal of research about the film and the time that the film takes place in. The main disadvantage was the sound problem we faced during the film analysis, which led to some poor performance during the presentation. Our slides were very nice thanks to Gökcen, and our background information was very comprehensive. I would give us B+
group 4
They managed to keep the attention on the presentation the entire time. They had good slides and good film analysis. Including the reviews at the end of the presentation was a good idea. Overall, they were organized.
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Section A3
I was in Group3 with Derya, Melisa and Göksu.
1- I would probably give A- because we tried to present it fluently, logically connected etc. However, presentation might be a bit longer and we had technical difficulties at the beginning of the presentation.
2- I am not very happy because we could not show our trailer.
3- No problems.
4- I think having some time in class was useful but I did not use it effectively and in my opinion there was enough time to be prepared in class.
5- It was a good experience but I did not learn a lot how to prepare an extremely effective presentation. However, it was a good group work and a good time to learn how to work with a group.
Group4: I found their presentation too long and most of the information was written on the slide and it made presentation a bit boring because I am also able to read them. It would be better if they had written their information in a piece of paper and put less information on the slide, it will be more attractive. They divided work well and it was very nice to be able to insert a video to their presentation. (:
Section A3
PART I. Feedback to other groups
Group 3
They wanted to show a youtube trailer, and counted on youtube which let them down. they should not trust youtube (it's often banned in Turkey as everyone knows, kind of a game). The trailer confusion was really annoying, we downloaded 2 youtube videos and integrated them in our presentation, had no problems. There were a few grammar mistakes, I'd like to mention. Not that everyone expects perfect English grammar but they made "ridiculously ugly" grammar mistakes. It was a relatively short presentation, which lasted about 20 minutes, and there were four of them in the Workgroup. Actually I was expecting an at least 30-35 minute work to fill the lesson time but it just started and ended in a blink. They informed us about the writer's life but did not exactly say how his life effected the movie or some resemblences, maybe we were supposed to figure out? I found the arrangements of the pictures and the writings a little disorganized, could've been nicely done.
They had a good point in contrasting Southpark's Kenny and this character Sajid. They had relatively good division of work, not one of them looked more or less contributed on the work.
Having said all these, I'd better get going and grab my shield, Group 3 girls will throw their arrows of harsh criticism to our work of Group 4's I think :D
PART II. Self-evaluation
1. I am expecting an A-. I think we did pretty well, except writing few of the written material on the presentation and not having them on a piece of paper to mention when the turn comes, that bored the audience a bit. There were 3 of us in the group and our presentation lasted 35 minutes or so. We had good division of work, and gave this nice info about the background of the period the movie was produced in, which made it easier for the audience to digest the movie. Our videos were well-integrated and useful for understanding the movie and keeping the audience alive. Our hand-out cards could've been better, it was an idea that flashed in our minds just before the presentation, we could've worked on them more. The aim of the hand-out cards was to pre-inform the audience about the writer and all and generate some contribution
2. I was happy with:
+our presentation lasted about 35 mins which was what we planned, actually a little longer
+We had 2 supportive videos which made the presentation interesting
+Good division of work, everyone contributed the same amount
I was less than happy with:
-Hand-out cards could've been worked on
-Few written material on the slides bored the audience a little, we could've had them on the paper, not the slides.
3.We had a friend who was not boarding at the dormitory, so when 2 of the members met at the campus and worked on the presentation, she had to check our work and contribute later. This wasn't a seriously problem as we well-integrated each other's work in the slide.
Initiallly, we had some trouble obtaining the videos from youtube, we figured out a way.
As our movie was old (1961), we had hard time finding supportive datas like photos, screenshots, reviews etc. Even we produced our own screenshots from the movie to use on the slide.
4. It was useful to have a class time as we could pre-arrange the division of work and other stuff
5. This definitely was a useful learning experience. We are now familiar with how to present our work and to work systematically.
6. They can be allowed to choose their own movie to present, not from a handful of movies.
DENIZ D. KIPGE
Group 3
firstly before they start every thing should have been ready by meaning the trailer it was a good idea but effect us and them in a bad way it was at the beginning and every body got bored and they get more excited... but they explained the characters of the movie interesting and nice i like that i think it was meenah ?? I am not sure the daughter that didnt agree with her dad they sad '' she goes plays soccer and dance's under the rain '' what the father says only dont play ball and dont dance under the rain they could have explain this part better..the information about england was a good idea i think ..I didnt really get the all of the points about racism they try to explain... the map was good and they explained it really well in the end they had a nice work nice hassle girls you all did a good job =)
GROUP 4
the paper was a good idea the hand out that they gave that was a point the music they played it was soo low first i thought that it was coming from out say it could be little louder the short clips were nice ..like the in the board the writings the sentences they use was good also but presenting it wasnt really good like at some points i didnt understand what were trying to say or explain it got little boring some parts after they covered it up little.. it is seem they have work for the presentation its not a 5 minute work what have they done but they could have work little more at the speaking part and in the end when i ask the question if they recommend this movie i got a good answer back they didnt jsut say yes or no they explain it to me by saying if you like this this kind of staff you might like it but if not you wont probly like it ...
group 3.
i would like to start saying mete that i am not going to say anything 'ridiculously ugly' about their presentation. :) first of all i would like to appreciate them for being able to integrate videos to their presentation. i also liked the trailer they picked. the hand-out cards seemed like a good idea to me but handing them before the presentation when we knew nothing about the movie made them less effective. in general i liked the presentation. it was supported with pictures and videos and the division of work was good too. however i need to say that there was too much information on the slides and sometimes it felt like you were reading what was on the screen.
self evaluation:
1. ı would probably give our presentation B something around 85-90. i think we brought out good points about movie and supported them with pictures and maps. we lived a trailer fiasco at the beginning which was our fault for not checking it before the presentation. i also think that we used vocabulary relevant to our topic and it was all teamwork but it could have been a little longer.
2.i was happy that everyone in the group contributed enough and we did a good research.
i was less than happy about that youtube video problem but none of us could manage to find a trailer other than youtube and also we could explain some points better which would make the audience understand it better.
3.well our biggest problem was the video i do not think i need to mention it again. also we had some problems finding a suitable time for all of us since one of us does not live at campus but we found our way.
4.i think it was useful to have a class time since i had also mentioned about our time problem.
5.this was definitely very beneficial for our presentation skills but i have to accept that we still have a lot to learn about an effective presentation.
6.i can suggest them NOT TO TRUST youtube under any circumstances.
Group 3
They made very good research about background info. However, they overemphasize this part. They gave a lot of information which were not displayed sufficiently and it took too much time so it started to bother audience. They used scenes from the movie but those weren't efficients because of volume problem. I liked visuals that used in the presentation.
Group 4
In some parts of slides they used too much written informations and also in some parts too many movie fragments. If they adjsut movie fragments in more bigger sizes, it would be helpful for audience to watch. Except for these, they were the only group who didn't have volume problem and also they used time well enough.
D3
3rd group- self evaulation
3 rd group was mine group. i think except one slights and expalining a bit fastly we did the presentation good. we did a cohersive search and tried to find good and exact scenes to make people understand what film and we tried to say.
4th group
except the summary was too long they prepared good presentation but they were not well prepared. they chosen impovisation instedad of getting ready by recognising their speech. if i were a teacher i would give them 16 :)
GROUP 3
They performed not bad at all. They arranged their time so well. Indeed, they tried to implant all little points that go throughout the film. By doing this, sometimes they showed how well they caught up some hidden details in the background. However, they just tried to touch on all of these that were not a vivid idea. One of these that I found really intriguing was the sound which is one of the counterparts of the film’s soundtrack. They separated adolescences and adults, afterwards analyzed them from distinct perspectives; it helped audiences to understand some crucial, underlying points of the film. They associated youth generation with colorful scenes. Contrarily, they represented adults like black and white colored scenes. Slides were clear in terms of recognizing the points without being distracted of listening them at the same time. On the other hand, in general; none of the group members made direct eye contacts with audiences.
GROUP 4
The group members, who were not performing at that time, were just talked and talked between each other so much, all which were huge regardless attitudes. Which mean, they showed no respect to audiences so how they could expect to see respect from audiences? Isn’t it ridicules? They almost did not make a distribution of tasks before coming to class. As we see a chronic problem of students that, they also made their presentation to teacher, not to class. Each of group members except for one interrupted each other’s presentation all the time. They performed not as a group but in an individually jealous mood whose were thirsty for getting better mark only.
D3"
Group 3 which was mine group did a good presentation I think. We start with a summary to our presentation. Then we explain the significant symbols in the movie. Finally we present the backgrounds of the period of 60's. However we present a bit fastly.
Group 4
The members of this group were not watched the movie carefully I think because they misunderstood a vital part of the movie(Frank). Their summary was also too long. However in question part groups performance is very good.
Section A3:
I enjoyed the Group 3's presentation. They were showing maps and other information that can show that they searched on the web about their topic and they were three but it did not matter they did a good division on the parts speaking and talking about the slides.
However Mete says ugly things about the video and says that YouTube does not work in Turkey sometimes, YouTube do work in the campus and these kinds of things can appear in the presentations.
Ok, they were sometimes weak on their grammar but i think it is because they got a little excited. It’s not easy to show your full performance in front of your friends or it may not be easy talk perfectly a foreign language and i don’t think that that is what eng 101 expecting from us.
About the group 4:
They were also good on presenting, but would not write that much on the slides and the cards that they gave was the same as the slides, long and nothing interesting or nothing memorable was written on it. I would not do it.
The Group 3
The group was composed of harmonic partners and all of them had compensated the deficient parts of each other systematically and practically. For example; while Ogeday was talking his team-mates supported him during hesitant positions and that remained fluency. Hence it means the collaboration between partners that made presentation elegant.Furthermore, they used time efficiently and also used presentation cards which was a clever attitude -that we plan to employ- in order to decrease the number of possible mistakes in presentation. Moreover, they gave place to a musical scene that was a great work made me impressed while listening and the music which contains a poem had summarized the story in short sentences.As a result they fulfilled their task and I hope they get a high mark.
The Group 4
This group was also tried to do their best, although they talked and discussed between each other that enabled the audience at least me think the members of group do work for themselves only , there is no any organization and work order. However they told important parts of the story good without any hesitation. But they are not well organized and the uncertainty was a negative point of their group. There were some misunderstandings that came up with ambiguous answers that did not satisfy the audience.
The Group 3
The group was composed of harmonic partners and all of them had compensated the deficient parts of each other systematically and practically. For example; while Ogeday was talking his team-mates supported him during hesitant positions and that remained fluency. Hence it means the collaboration between partners that made presentation elegant.Furthermore, they used time efficiently and also used presentation cards which was a clever attitude -that we plan to employ- in order to decrease the number of possible mistakes in presentation. Moreover, they gave place to a musical scene that was a great work made me impressed while listening and the music which contains a poem had summarized the story in short sentences.As a result they fulfilled their task and I hope they get a high mark.
The Group 4
This group was also tried to do their best, although they talked and discussed between each other that enabled the audience at least me think the members of group do work for themselves only , there is no any organization and work order. However they told important parts of the story good without any hesitation. But they are not well organized and the uncertainty was a negative point of their group. There were some misunderstandings that came up with ambiguous answers that did not satisfy the audience.
section A3
Group 3
I would probably give our presentation B something around 85-90. i think we brought out good points about movie and supported them with pictures and maps. and you Mete. you possessed with an idea "ridiculously ugly" that is not a grammer mistake. where is the problem? we are not perfect person who speak very well
group4
their presentation was too long and many information was written on the slide and it made presentation boring.
that "ridiculously ugly" was a reference to these Pakistani girls., not that there's a grammar mistake in "ridiculously ugly".
Never mind.
thanks for anonymus who criticizes our presentation in a good way but i thik he or she should write his or her name :)
section D3
i m sorry it was Salih :) i have just realised the comment..
Hande, you say you did not use the class time effectively. What were the reasons for that, do you think?
I can understand why some of you say you would like to choose your own film...I had to make sure all the films related to our course theme of Family Ties and that there was enough social, historical and cultural context in each to enable you to develop an academic presentation. Many popular films would therefore not be suitable for this assignment.
I am impressed by the quality of the feedback comments you are leaving, please keep it up! Please feel free to respond to the feedback given to your group by other students.
Section B3
Group 3
I think they were the luckiest group because they presented “American Beauty” and many people knows about this film. Their power point’s background was nice. It was colour of American Beauty rose. They mentioned interesting points that I did not think when I watched the film. For example they said the rose represents social barrier between Lester and Angela. He never imagines her totally naked! They showed some parts from the film. That made it easy to understand. Second speaker spoke Turkish more than 3 times, he said “şey” , but they were good. However, they did not mention about family ties.
Group 4
They presented “The Graduate”. Their language was understandable. Maybe they can put more pictures. Their presentation was not so amusing. They had mentioned historical context, like hippie and feminist movements, nicely. They told about family relations in the film well. I want to watch this movie.
Firstly,i want to emphasize that both group 3 and 4 have done presentations pretty well in my opinion. For group three, they have divided their work equally into group members and they help each other very nicely. Their source for short-video was also useful i think, even some interruption of it but not much stuff.To sum up, apart from some interruption the presentation was quite informative and fluent. For group 4, i could critize in little bit cold blood:) their presentation was really good designed and informative and detailed but they didn't help each other, they put too long sentences into their presentation and even they didn't read from paper but they read from the screen which is worst. The worst thing was that when a member got excited any of them helped him i think they can help each other. Lastly even it was informative and detailed it was a little bit boring but altough these mistakes they presented their best and everybody in the class could understand that they really prepared for the presentation.
Group 3
They worked harmonicly and their explanation about topic was good especially they focused on relationships between young generations and adults, they used time very well, and they used powerpoint slides carefully and effectively as a result of that their presentation was nice.
Group 4
Firstly, they actually did not prepared this presentation much. They talked each other while presentation continuing and this makes negative points to them and this is not good for audience because it shows disrespect for audiences however they did good powerpoint slides only this situation made their presentation good.
ı m sorry mete ı didnt prevent myself :) is there any problem???
Group 3
(a raisin in the sun)
I am a member of this group. We couldn't use time so efficiently. It took a little bit longer than we planed. Our background info and other information like about author, was pretty enough to support our analysis but i guess it would be better if we had shortened the background part because in analysis part we had to be quicker to balance the time again. Also lack of voice in our videos restricted me and Yasemin. So we couldn't perform as we imagined or organized. Otherwise i think our powerpoint presentation was pretty cool. We tried to take the attentions with impressive headings and keywords. We used moving figures again to make our content more interesting and we supported our presentation with pretty relevant pictures. Also our presentation consists of enough researches. I think it is obvious that with our group, we tried to do our best for this assignment.
Group 4
They chose good parts of the movie to present so they could keep the attention. They performance was good during their presentation. Also they were organized. Their slides was cool and especially the last part in which every actress and actor were posing in the movie was spectacular. They could give more background information about content to make it better.
Sonja, I wanted to say that I did not search about the film in the class or I did not prepare my presentation in class. It was very nice to have time in class but I did not do a lot what should I do. As I said, I did not get prepared in class. I made a research outside the class, that’s why I said I did not use the time effectively which you gave us. I hope it is clear now. (:
Mete, I cannot understand that why you are obsessed with “ridiculously ugly”. In our film, East is East, we wanted to emphasize that their father do not care about what his children want, he just wants to arrange their children marriage with Pakistani girls. The father wants their children to get married with Pakistani girls, it is the only reason why he choose that ridiculously ugly girls. The father knows that the girls are ridiculously ugly, none of the fathers want their children to marry with ridiculously ugly girls/boys. However, in the film the father does not care because they are Pakistanis! It shows racism, get married with them because they are Pakistanis, the father does not care about children’s emotions, loves. In the film, in my opinion it was a very good part which should be emphasized because it was very important. I understand your point that, you do not like the words “ridiculously ugly”, but as I mentioned it was the part which should be highlighted. Also, Sonja told about it. Moreover, if I did not use that world, it would not get your attention. May be you can watch the film and try a bit harder to understand us why we used those words.
Hi again Hande,
Your first comment was clear, I just wondered *why* you did not work in class. For example, did you find it difficult to concentrate? Did you feel you had lots of time ahead of you? Were you unsure of where to start and/or how to proceed? Something like that. There is no judgement involved; I am merely curious. :)
About group three, their presentation was good. Especially the context of moving African-Americans across USA and how they gain privileges throughout time were very extended and well-prepared. There were some lack of fluent speech; but i guess it's no problem considering the amount of given information. The scenes could be more explained before showing to the audience. For example i had a little difficulty about understanding one scene because i haven't watched the film. So it would be better to inform more about the scene before watching it.
About group four, the sound wasn't enough which prevented me to hear and to comment on their scene analysis. The context was well told and they created a good relation between characters as well as the analysis of each one. At the end, they showed some reviews and they didn't point on them. I believe it would be better to expand them, at least a brief phrase for each one. I liked the last of presentation where they showed the photographer taking photos of different people and i, once again, witnessed the sense of humor by British people. (Awesome)
Group 3
I think they worked so much on their job and they analyzed the movie well. They presented the movie so fluently and they had good contact with each others. But they could have more attractive powerpoint slides.
Group 4
I think they seemed as they didn't work so much and they didn't contact between group members.It could be more fluent presentation.They had nice powerpoint slides.
Sonja, I am sorry, I did not give a clear answer. As you mentioned, I thought that I have lots of time to do it. Also, I did not want to start immediately because I was not sure about where should I start etc. I was in Group 3, which means I will have more time to get prepared. Moreover, I am sure that I would work hard in the class if I was in Group 1 or 2.
Section B3
Their presentation was really good. They analyzed theme, symbols and characters in a very detailed way. They kept the interest of audience to presentation high through the presentation, which may be helped by the popularity and audiences' awareness of the film, American Beauty. They use scenes from the movie which increased effectiveness of their presentation. The only negative side of their presentation (in my opinion) was they assumed that audience knows a bit about the movie and they didn't introduce characters at the beginning of the presentation.
Group 4
Very good character, character relations, family introduction at the start was a positive for them. They gave a good historical background information, but they failed to connect the much of the background information to the film. They were also a bit anxious during presentation, which decreased their effectiveness.
Group 3:In my opinion, it was the best group i've seen so far(i don't count my group).I think their powerpoint was strong except a couple of mistakes like Ogeday forgat to put a slight. They caught the points in the movie, they've seen the main topics and presented them well and also developed their ideas impressively. Their language was fluent except some pronunciation mistakes. They weren't boring, it was obvious they spent time on it and succeed to catch my attention.
Group4:I think this group had some insufficient points they needed to improve. Firstly, they weren't well organized, one of the team members(Hakan) didn't work on his part at all, the team had lack of communication. Secondly, the summary was too long and bored most of the class as i have observed. I also think they missed some important points at the movie which they should have watched very carefully and analyzed well. However, i was still impressed by some of their explanations.
The post on December 29, 2008 9:27 PM was written by me.
section c3
group 3 self-evaluation
I am a member of this group. The contents of our presentation steps, in terms of preparing the audience, evaluating the film and emphasizing these days' conditions, were well-organized i think. Our visual show was also efficent. Whereas, like gokcen said before, we did not use the time efficently. The main factor for this is exceed number of cut film-scenes i think.
But to be honest, we really tried to do our best and it is a good quality to realize our improvable points.
group 4
Their organization was really good and make the audience aware of what will be presented. They shared the time effectively and fluency was generally good except some moments. If we want to give an example to improvable points, maybe they could use a little bit lighter colours.
Section C3
Group 3 (a raisin in the sun)
1) I was in group 3 with Gökçen, Görkem and Onat. I would probably give A- or B because we tried to use very different sources, our visual effects are fine and our presentation was logically connected.
2) I was very happy about we did perfect background information and visual themes. Also our film analysis was good enough. However i'm not happy with our time was not enough. If we could have more time, our presentation would be more exciting.
3) we didn't have any problems when we prepared because we always debated about our topic.
4) In my opinion, it was very useful have a class time to work on this assignment because we studied very well in a class time and most of our outline was appeared in that time.
5) It was a good experience for me because i always had problems about presentation and after this, we thought i over this problem.
group 3
they have done a great research about the historical background and it was very affective for the audience. the only problem was the timing and the scenes from the movie was incomprehensible because of the volume.
group 4
i was a member of this group. i think apart from background, we did a good job. We succeeded to attract the audience to the presentation by using scenes and clear speech. The timing was good. Because of the excitement of doing presentation led us to use some wrong words. We did not make a research about the background. i think this can be the main reason if audience could not found the presentation affective.
Group 3
They had prepared their presentation very good and they tried to speak successively. Also, they had too many photos and scenes from their own movie so watching them was very enjoyable. Only , they had a sound problem so we couldnt hear clearly.
Group 4 (my group)
We had a good preparation for this presentation so ı thought we made a good job but sometimes we had some basic grammar mistakes while talking and so it was so normal=).
And another mistake is that we didnt talk about historical background, we forgot that. Maybe ıt could be more better but for first time we made best =).
D3
Group 3
I think they were the most hardworking group among us. Their presentation was fully detailed. They had presented their work pretty well. "Graduate" is their biggest advantage. Movie itself is very famous and enjoying legend. I think they've done a very good job
Group 4
Well there is not much to say. They had 1 more weeks than first 2 groups had still they lacked communication, I even wonder if all the group members watched the film. Even if the summary was too long and unnecessary it was the best part of the presentation.
group3 is my group.
1. I hope to get A-. Not A because we had some technical difficulties. and I believe we deserve better than B+ because we analyze the movie well.
2. At the beginning we had some technical difficulties. That is something I am not happy with. I regreted why did not prepare the trailer before. But after we started, everything went fine. We present fluently. Overall I am happy with our presantation.
3. We did not experience any problems while preparing.
4. I think it useful to have class time. In class, we discuss the topics that we can use and divide them into parts. There is enough time to get prepared but I could not use it efficiently.
5. I could not say it is a positive learning experience because if you have a movie like East is East then there is limited things to learn. But presentation is a useful technique to improve public speaking skills. and I prefer presentations rather than writing essays.
6.no suggestions.
group4
I think it is an avarage presentation because they made some basic mistakes. There was to much writing on the slides. And it would be better if they prepared a speech instead of reading from laptop. My positive comment, the information about the movie's title and where does it came from is interesting. It was clear that they searched their movie very detailed.
Section C3
Group 3
This group gives us a lot of background information ,however, they cause to become longer presentation than its normal.They gives us information from many sources. They also use many videos but the sound caused the problem. Generally, they continue with good organization and the presentation is clear.
Group 4
Characters are introduced with details. They also show us scenes from movie. They are fluent but some words cause conflict in my mind. It could be better unless presentation didn't include that amount information about characters so they may more focus on theme.
Group 3:
I enjoyed their presentation. As some of my friends mentioned before there was a harmony between the group members. They were well organized, therefore they didn't talk to each other. They had a detailed research, which showed, that they took care of their job. The only problem was, they presented fast. Although they had enough time, they changed the slides fast. I guess, they had the feeling, they couldn't manage to end their presentation on time.
Group 4:
This group gave me the feeling, they didn't spend time on their presentation so much. It was obvious, they were not organized. Not every group member knew, which part belonged to him. Therefore they talked to each other a lot during the presentation.
group 3
i missed the lesson, so i could not watch this presentation
group 4
it was my presentation group. First we could not organize, because i and gokhan could not reach other our presentation group members. actually we tried our best.summary part was very long, we did not plan like that long. i think we have positive parts in the movie. question part,symbols from the movie and the parallel part of the movie and our course readings parts were presentated very good.
group 3
Their presentation was very good. They talked about historical background which was very important for presentation. Using some scenes from the movie were very satisfying for audience. But the volume of the scenes and the timing were not adequate.
group 4
This is my group.
1) I would probably give our presentation B- or B, because we tried to explain good points from the movie and supported them with pictures and scenes from the movie.
2) I was happy because all the group members prepared enough, did good research and helped each other.
I was less than happy because we didn't give any information about historical background and also we did some grammar mistakes, while we were talking.
3) No problems.
4) It was very efficient for learning experience and also It was a good practice because It was not easy to explain your thoughts, while talking to audience.
5) It was a good experience. But I think they can allowed to choose the movie
Group 3
I was absent at this class because of the preparations about our presentation that's why I apologise to my friends who made the third presentation =(
Group 4(our group)
I would give us C because we were not organised because we were lack of communication. Alkan and I came together and tried to do something about the slides, the power-point show which would be the evidence of our work. We tried to do our best. Thanks to my classmates because they listened with respect sometimes they got bored, I saw that from their faces but they waited the end of the presentation that's why "grazie". =)
some comments on the presentation group4 are so lame. some people just criticize for the sake of criticizing. For those people, i want to say, stop being so lame and boring, get a life. This presentation thing is overrated, dont you have anything else to do in your life than killing time with lame presentations. O.K ? Get a life.
group 3
their background information was very well i think. but there was a timing and volume problem. we couldnt hear the sound clearly.
group 4
they gave detailed info about the film and the scenes from the film were good and they used time effectively.
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Group 3
they presented ''American Beauty''. Their slides were colorful and attractive. They took some scene from film but the volume of fragment was not enough to hear. They are lucky that lots of audience had watched this film before. While I were listening them, I did not get bored.
Group 4
Their used many photos from film on their slides. They give historical background information. They adjusted their time successfully. The character analysis were good to understand clearly.
Group 3
They presented American Beauty very well. I found their presentation fine. They gave very good information of characters and clearly explain character's features. Furthermore they used a video from the movie. This made their presentation more attractive.
Group 4
They presented “The Graduate”. The photos they used in presentation were good. Their presentation was understandable.
i was in the group 4
i do not expect an A for my presentation, because we were not organized as well as it has to be. according to the work distribution, my job was easy and it lasted very short during the presentation.In my opinion, i worked enough to earn a b-plus, but this fact could be my handicap.
I cannot come up with something that satisfies me, because the technological problems we faced during the presentation was crucial and it played unfortunately a big role.
I think, the class time work was totally a waste of time for our group, because we couldn't manage to unite altogether in a single lesson time, but we had to meet after lessons.
I always find oral Presentations useful, because i pay a lot of attention for speaking a foreign language rather than going deeper with grammar or reading texts/watching films.
Group 3 - self evaluation
1) I think we can have A-, because we are generally good. We had some miss points such as we did not mentioned family ties.
2) Generally I am happy with our presentation. Our presentation is visually nice. Especially short videos from the film are also very effective, therefore they made the presentation attractive and we tried to present fluently. Our time management is also good. Each group member spoke equally. We analyzed the characters well.
3) There is no problem while we were preparing the presentation.
4) I think class time is enough to prepare if it is used efficiently, but we could not used the class time efficiently, therefore we prepared big part of our presentation out of class.
5) I think it is useful for learning experience. We have improved our team work experiences, searching experiences
6) No, I don’t have any suggestions.
Group 4
Their presentation was not bad. Visually, it seemed nice. Two of the group member spoke fluently. Their character analysis was good. I understood all of them easily.
Group 3:
I beg pardon of the third group because I could not watch them for complete our presentation with my group:(
Group 4: self- evaluation
I cannot say good for our presentation:( As my partners said, we could not well organized and due to the fact that we had to speak while we present. That include organization, body language, eye contact etc. This is the cause the lower point of us. Moreover the summary of the film was too long which was my part. I apologize to my classmates because of boring them. But I may could not realize the time when I present:(
ı think group3 prepared really good. the division of work and using of language is really good. it can be a little bit longer. also if we could see the trailer it will be more interesting but this was not their fault. plus, the character analysis are very detailed which was very good.
I was in group4 but I do not prefer to do my self evaluation part. We all worked hard and tried to do our best.It was a good experience. That is the only thing that I want to say.
Section B3
Group 3
I really liked this presentation. They all seemed to have control over the movie and the presentation. They used some short videos from the movie which added a lot to the visual side of the presentation. Most of them spoke fluently, at least we did not have a hard time trying to understand them. If they could talk about the characters in the beginning a little bit, then we wouldn't have any problem understanding what's going on in the movie.
Section B3
Group 4
This presentation would be better if there were more visuals. They spoke clearly but they were kind of stressful. Character analysis were good. Background information were good but it kind of stood unconnected to the movie.
Section B3:
Group 3:
This one was our group, we presented the movie American Beauty. I think we were the luckiest group since this movie was watched by most of the people and since it is more recent than most of the other presentation movies, it caught more attention. I think we made a good work preparing the powerpoint presentation, even the background colour was related with the movie, we used pictures to explain the symbols the movie contains and also thanks to Erdem we used 2 short videos from the movie to explain to situations and characters. I think our language was also fluent and easy to understand, we tried hard to get the attention of viewers, we made good eye contact and i think we adjusted our voice well. The negative points at our presentation were that we assumed everybody would know something about the movie so we didn't make the character analysis at the beginning, also it seems that we didn't give enough information about the Family Ties relevant to movie. But overally i am satisfied with the outcome of our presentation. I am hoping to get at least B+ for that.
Group 4:
They gave detailed information about the historical context about the movie. They talked about the movements like hippie movement at that time. Their character analysis was very good and detailed. But they seemed a bit anxious, their language was not very fluent they didn't use much eye contact.
I was in Group3 with Elif and Ogeday and our film was '' The Graduate''.Actually, we did many works about presentation to express many sides of film to audience, it is wonderful film, however it includes many themes and situation makes hard to give all aspects of film in presentation.Additionally, we used to our time properly and tried to contact audience. During preparing process, I learned many things such as analyzing films,using powerpoint, organization. it was the good experience for me.
2) I think Group4, had some organization problems,also they put many things on slides which made following harder. Also they only criticize film's one side, however it includes many background.
Both group was great. They gave lots of information about the characters. For the Group 3 sound caused a problem but in spite of this problem presentation was great.
The Group 4 showed us many scenes from the film and these scenes represented many important points of the film.
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group 3
I am a member of this group. I think we did a great deal of research about the film and the time that the film takes place in. The main disadvantage was the sound problem we faced during the film analysis, which led to some poor performance during the presentation. Our slides were very nice thanks to Gökcen, and our background information was very comprehensive. I would give us B+
group 4
They managed to keep the attention on the presentation the entire time. They had good slides and good film analysis. Including the reviews at the end of the presentation was a good idea. Overall, they were organized.
i likte their way but i feel they r too much nerveous
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